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wonderful show

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and then in one night they say lightning

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uh and and some what did one paper say

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more intense there

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right exactly

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yeah it's some amazing stuff um

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he was

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checked out his identity and he checked

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okay and you checked to see if his

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family owned next door and did they

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yes they did okay

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and he had pictures right he actually

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had pictures of the smoldering bruins

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which puts him at the place at the time

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he said he was basically yep i mean

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i seen the pictures their daytime

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pictures early morning right really

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early morning

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that's uh pretty compelling

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yeah plus he explained in the fire

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pictures he said this is you can tell

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that you know they burned it down

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because when they put the straw into the

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center of the house

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everything fell into that hole

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everything fell into the foundation

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nothing fell out of the foundation and

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none of the trees caught fire you know

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what brother the trees were charred but

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none of them actually burned to the

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ground because it was so well planned

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shared a lot on summer wind restoration

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society as well

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they didn't burn down to the ground

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of summerwind uh go on facebook and

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check out the summer restoration society

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it's a facebook group page

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and you can check the photoshop

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now there were some pictures that were

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sent to us from the fire department um

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sent to like the milwaukee journal

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because they did a story on uh you know

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it couldn't be arson could it have been

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torched stuff like that yeah and the

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town of land lakes did send some

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of summer wind on fire um and evidently

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they stopped to take a lot of the

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pictures of it burning down and stuff

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because it stated that they started

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if he was there at around 10 10 30 at

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it was really like 11 o'clock and they

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take them to get the hay in there how

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long did it take them to start the fire

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has no idea how long it would take

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to burn a building down in a pouring

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torrential downpour of rain now there's

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no windows on the house there's no doors

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regardless of putting straw on the

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those floors are still saturated with

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to take a decent amount of time to burn

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morning hours now they say the fire

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department said they didn't get out

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seven o'clock in the morning after

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church is when they got the fire call

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i don't know the pictures look like it's

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earlier than seven am but i'm not a uh a

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time specialist so i'm not sure 100

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percent but anybody can alter pictures

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nowadays too so

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you know unless i see the original

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pictures if they have some type of time

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stamp on them or

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or even a date would be helpful with

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that they'll have a date but not a time

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i'm guessing yeah probably a date

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sometimes they do it just depends so

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whether they take them with polaroids or

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are they taking with 110 cameras or what

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at that time of year it gets late at 5

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start until 12 or 1. like you said maybe

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play even an hour and a half with the

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um and being as wet it was as it was

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then pictures could have easily been

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taken at 5 30 in the morning and if you

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look at the pictures

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most of the building is already burnt

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the inner upper part the second story

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yet the all you have left are just the

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bottom parts of the basically the walls

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our team has been out there that you

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know uh like your team and

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uh you could clearly notice that other

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games

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yeah and uh you know the the two

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buildings

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summer wind and the surface quarters

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are i mean they're not right next to

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each other you know i'd say maybe 20

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feet apart but the from the servants

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quarters to the garage it's further than

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that and

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even like you said like even if the the

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trees weren't they were just slightly

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charred and stuff uh which were closer

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to the building than the service

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quarters

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there's just so many unanswered

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questions and yeah the pictures that

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were taken yeah the pictures that were

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sent to us or milwaukee journal

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they also kind of show that when they

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took the pictures it was pretty dark

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because the trees didn't show up in

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their pictures the fire showed up

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clearly but the trees didn't really show

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up it was still dark

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not pitch dark so it could have been

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early morning

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and then one of those pictures in one of

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those pictures that was sent you can

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one of the i'm not sure if it's the

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maids quarters the servant's quarters or

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the garage or something like that but

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it's not even touched by fire they're

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taking pictures of it it's not the

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fire's not even near so where'd that

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yeah you know this is uh

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it's incredible um it's really truly an

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incredible story

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there's no doubt about that

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yep i did check with

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vilas county um

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corporate courts to find out if any

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permits were ever issued to anybody

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for

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you know you know attempting to burn

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down summer winning or wanting to burn

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down summer wins and nothing was ever

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issued the only records that they had in

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their office was

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the fact that

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von bober when he had it after the

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henshaws had it

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wanted to make it

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listed in the historical register of

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deeds and he was going to do that

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evidently he never did that

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the second thing that was listed in the

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documents were

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after the fire there was bricks laying

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around everywhere on the inside of the

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mansion and i guess the owners had

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asked the town to clean up the bricks

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yeah that's that's quite interesting i

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you know it's uh

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again you know

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that being

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a you know so historic out there

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it's it's it's a shame that it wasn't uh

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registered as a historical thing at the

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time because i think uh had it been they

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would have been much more careful about

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doing what they did that's just yeah

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you know assuming they did that uh

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obviously iran or periversal universe we

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you know we're just we have no proof you

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know and the town didn't did we should

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to be fair the town did say that they

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didn't do it

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supernatural magazine and then it came

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out in the milwaukee sentinel for the

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associated press

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and then they denied it

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they denied it

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ramish also denied the fact that he told

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the milwaukee journal

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that uh

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he was looking to get permits to burn it

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down and said that if he didn't do it he

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wouldn't know when he was going to he

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goes oh i must have they must have took

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words out of my mouth or something so he

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denied that saying that to milwaukee

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journal uh many years ago too so

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and you figure you know for for this to

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have happened this kind of conspiracy

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because that's what it was you know

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conspiracy conspiracies more than two

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people inspiring

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you know crime or or yeah something

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wrong with wrongdoing and uh here you

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have

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uh you figure well you know according to

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his testimony the sheriff's department

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had to be some members had to be

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involved on it the fire department and

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the town offices so you're looking at 15

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to 20 people

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probably probably had told their kids

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and their grandkids guess what we did or

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you know yeah just like

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just like the daughter told the one guy

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that their dad burned the summerwind

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mansion down

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you know and it makes sense it makes a

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little more sense hearing at that and

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thinking about that that we would have

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heard it in high school you know um

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because kids like you said dinner table

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oh yeah you know dad burned someone down

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last night don't tell anyone of course

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kids run to school blah blah summer when

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burned out you know yeah depending upon

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where land the lake school kids went to

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school might have been uh home of the

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nimrods

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all right everybody and with that it is

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time for our first commercial break

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we'll be right back with our guests you

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are listening to the periversal universe

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welcome back to pear reversal universe

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on the inception radio network

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we're host kevin and jennifer malek and

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tonight we're talking to ghost hunter

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and author craig nearing from the fox

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valley ghost hunters in the summerwind

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restoration society

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but before we bring him back on we'd

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like to take a minute and thank everyone

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god for granting us this wonderful show

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uh we also have three periversal

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universe like pages

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on facebook so check those out also

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check out jennifer malek psychic

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demonologist jennifer's like page

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and of course the northern wisconsin

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paranormal society limited like page

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the website as well

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we also

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have two group pages worth noting like

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monstrosities which is the largest page

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on facebook for aquatic mysteries and

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the lake monsters

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and finally ultimate conspiracies which

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is pretty much self-explanatory

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if you have any questions for our guests

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go to irelandchat.com

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to go to our live iron chat room where

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you can post questions and make comments

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so

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okay um craig you're still with us

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all right so we were discussing the

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summer wind fire

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and uh

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really amazing stuff

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uh we were talking off air for a minute

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uh

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and i didn't jot it down

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you got so many things in front of me

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here i'm sure we'll get back to it

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so i guess um

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for the for the beginning of the second

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half i'd like to talk a little bit about

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the summer and restoration society

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of course which would

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has to do with summerlin totally um if

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you could take a couple minutes and

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explain to everybody what the the

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restoration society is about and how it

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came to be

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and uh

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all that

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sure um basically um getting in touch

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with the owners when we first started

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investigating summer when maybe about

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six or

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probably about six years ago

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it took us a while to get a hold of the

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owners to get permission to even go out

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there

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once we were able to get permission to

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go out there and do investigations it's

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just been an amazing journey since then

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but we've become very very close to the

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owners over the years

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and

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remaining balanced due subject to credit

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and thirty dollar activation fee

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restrictions applied

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they're basically when they purchased

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the property in

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uh just two years prior to

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the mansion burning down

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they had purchased it um basically

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the owner

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the the wife went up to the husband for

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her anniversary and said hey you know

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i'd like something different for

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an anniversary presence so what does he

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do he comes back with the deed to summer

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wind

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uh kind of a neat little story to you

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know get a haunted house for the

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anniversary present

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so

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after that they're they wanted to build

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it like into bed and breakfast to be

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able to allow people to come out and

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enjoy it to uh make like a lodge with

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all the history and everything involved

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within it as well

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but in two years later lightning or

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whatever

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burned it to the ground so

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their dreams of making it into a bed and

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breakfast were kind of down the tubes

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and we kind of got started on the

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project hoping that we could uh

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as some of the newspapers say conjure

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the funds to uh

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um be able to rebuild summer wind to its

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former glory

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now we're not talking about building all

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the outbuildings in the garage and

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everything we're just talking about

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building the main mansion with the

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original blueprints which we have a copy

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of

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and our goal is hopefully to uh

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be able to do that someday

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um the owner just one of the owners

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recently just had a stroke group so

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uh we're hoping that uh she gets a

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chance to see the mansion rebuilt before

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you know she's gone and no longer able

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to

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hopefully that her dream would have came

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true

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right because yeah they only own that

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for like two years before it burnt down

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yeah

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and um being that was a surprise to her

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when they got it you know um

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to get anything major going it takes

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some time uh you know so

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they really didn't even have an

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opportunity

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to

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or maybe put a fence around

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or

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you know because there's other things

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that could have been done besides

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torching the place

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um

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yeah or at least uh you know at least if

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they would have uh talked to him a

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little bit and said hey you know why

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don't you guys put a fence around this

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we're getting a little bit irritated

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with rather than taking the matters into

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your own hands well the owners are down

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in lacrosse or on vacation down and uh

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they go to uh vegas quite a bit in other

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places so down the

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camera mexico

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right

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yeah and yeah exactly that you'd figure

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that would have happened it is so

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unfortunate that it didn't because like

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a simple fence

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you know just a little communication

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would have been all it would have taken

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um

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because if the owners weren't even aware

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of how bad the problem was with the kids

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and the the thrill seekers

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um

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and whatnot you know i

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knowing the owners

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you know they would have done something

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about it

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yeah definitely

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uh

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so

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the place burns down

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and to this day people still go out

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there all the time

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it hasn't deterred anybody from going

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out there

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um

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our society has had

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um

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two opportunities to investigate

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summerlin

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uh

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just with the society

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no

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uh what would you call them uh

532
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you know no no outside

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influence and uh

534
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there's no doubt that there's still

535
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stuff going on out there

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um

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we actually

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uh the both times we were out there

539
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garnered evidence that that's uh

540
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that that's

541
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um you know and when i

542
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you know after high school and after all

543
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the years

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it passed

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at first when i went out there i i

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my first thought was well the mansion is

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gone you know it's just but not you it's

548
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like i thought it was it's benign like

549
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you're doing nothing going to be out

550
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there

551
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and after we investigated for the first

552
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time

553
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and uh

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uh

555
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we got

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a rock thrown and we had a shadow person

557
00:20:03,669 --> 00:20:01,440
uh

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00:20:05,350 --> 00:20:03,679
recorded which could not be explained

559
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:05,360
and put cameras up everywhere and the

560
00:20:09,669 --> 00:20:07,919
whole thing was dissected and there was

561
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,679
absolutely no explanation for the shadow

562
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walking by

563
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so it's you know and of course all the

564
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other people recording stuff

565
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:19,039
but no team has investigated it more

566
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than you guys uh

567
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:22,799
what kind of stuff have you guys

568
00:20:26,230 --> 00:20:24,720
experienced out there let's talk about

569
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:26,240
some of the paranormal activity for a

570
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little bit

571
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um we've experienced and i think you

572
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guys did it as well on the rocks that

573
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were like small sized rocks

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just coming out of the sky and coming

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out of nowhere it lasted about an hour

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and then it started up again a couple

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hours later but the rocks were landing

578
00:20:48,870 --> 00:20:46,320
on some girls on our investigators tents

579
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,880
and they started screaming but uh i'm

580
00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:50,720
not your team i think i encountered that

581
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,240
as well

582
00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:54,320
yeah um

583
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:55,840
we had

584
00:20:59,750 --> 00:20:58,400
jennifer and susan

585
00:21:02,310 --> 00:20:59,760
we're in the basement which is still

586
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:02,320
covered it's only part of the ruins that

587
00:21:07,590 --> 00:21:05,200
you can still go inside of

588
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:07,600
and during their evp session

589
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:09,919
they had a rock and flying in and you

590
00:21:13,830 --> 00:21:12,159
can hear it ricocheting off the cement

591
00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:13,840
because there's cement ceilings cement

592
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:15,520
walls floor

593
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:17,200
you know

594
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,559
and of course

595
00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:20,000
there was five of us out there the other

596
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:20,880
three

597
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:21,760
uh we're

598
00:21:26,070 --> 00:21:23,679
standing all the way across on the other

599
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:26,080
side way on the other end um at the

600
00:21:28,830 --> 00:21:27,280
nerves

601
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,840
you know

602
00:21:33,270 --> 00:21:31,039
um and uh

603
00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,280
again there's there's you're you're way

604
00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:35,440
out in the boonies there's

605
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:37,120
you know how can you explain that and of

606
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:38,799
course the other time was when the rocks

607
00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:41,600
were coming out of the foundation

608
00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:43,520
which is really interesting because when

609
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:45,200
they come flying out of the foundation

610
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,559
and hit people

611
00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:48,000
you know how do you explain that i mean

612
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,520
you can clearly see there's nobody in

613
00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:51,039
the foundation you can look into the

614
00:21:54,630 --> 00:21:52,000
hole

615
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,640
you know yep and we had thermal cameras

616
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,799
so we knew there wasn't any neighbors or

617
00:22:02,470 --> 00:21:58,480
any kids that were messing with us

618
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,070
some of the uh some of the other

619
00:22:08,470 --> 00:22:05,520
evidence that we captured out there a

620
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:08,480
lot of amazing evps from voices saying

621
00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:11,360
little girl dead is your friend

622
00:22:15,909 --> 00:22:14,320
voices saying damn it i'm being bad

623
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,919
um basically

624
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:18,320
the spirit's one night probably about

625
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:19,520
three years back

626
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,520
there's no electricity up there and all

627
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:23,039
our meters were going off on the front

628
00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:25,120
porch while we're standing up there

629
00:22:29,510 --> 00:22:27,520
and suddenly on the ghost box a device

630
00:22:31,590 --> 00:22:29,520
that runs white noise to talk to spirits

631
00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:31,600
in real time suddenly we were hearing

632
00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,159
things saying go get them run after them

633
00:22:38,549 --> 00:22:36,960
vindictive coming up the driveway hurry

634
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:38,559
and one of my members is like what what

635
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:40,159
the heck is going on i said well maybe

636
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,840
you should go up the driveway so he

637
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:43,360
walks up the driveway here there's three

638
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:44,880
kids trying to break into the back of

639
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,440
our vehicles so basically the ghost was

640
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,600
warning us that hey somebody's coming up

641
00:22:52,950 --> 00:22:50,960
the driveway

642
00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:52,960
and we thought that was ironic so we all

643
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:54,400
went back up onto the porch again

644
00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:56,000
started another session

645
00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,000
then and when this time i got a little

646
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,000
smarter i'd put a motion the motion

647
00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:01,919
sensor about halfway up the drive we had

648
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:03,760
one of those really loud ones with the

649
00:23:07,909 --> 00:23:06,400
high decibels and the next thing i know

650
00:23:08,789 --> 00:23:07,919
is on the ghost box again something's

651
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:08,799
saying

652
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:11,360
six coming now hurry go get them fast

653
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,640
i'm like oh my god is there somebody

654
00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:14,400
coming and suddenly my motion sensor

655
00:23:18,950 --> 00:23:16,640
goes off one of our members runs up the

656
00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:18,960
driveway again here there's four girls

657
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:21,520
and or four guys and two girls and one

658
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:23,440
of the girls just peed her pants because

659
00:23:27,830 --> 00:23:25,039
the motion detector was so loud it

660
00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:29,430
but here the ghost said six people

661
00:23:33,909 --> 00:23:32,080
coming up the driveway

662
00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,919
you know and so a lot of a lot of

663
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:35,760
amazing evps that we have captured you

664
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,360
can actually find on our website

665
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:39,600
foxvalleyghosthunters.com

666
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:44,789
you know and then one of them

667
00:23:48,549 --> 00:23:46,400
i'm sorry go ahead

668
00:23:50,549 --> 00:23:48,559
okay then one of the other one of the

669
00:23:53,190 --> 00:23:50,559
last cool things was just captured just

670
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,200
this past event where the guy had came

671
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,799
out and told us about what the town

672
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:56,080
possibly did

673
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,720
was uh a woman was doing some video and

674
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:00,640
she did two clips one video she's the

675
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:02,320
first clip she came around

676
00:24:06,710 --> 00:24:04,640
from down below the porch came up the

677
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:06,720
stairs and you know there's nothing

678
00:24:11,669 --> 00:24:07,440
there

679
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,679
and then she videotaped maybe like a

680
00:24:15,830 --> 00:24:13,760
half hour an hour later if she's coming

681
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:15,840
around that corner and going up those

682
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:16,960
stairs

683
00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:19,039
here is what it looks like is there's a

684
00:24:24,149 --> 00:24:21,600
woman standing there in a white dress

685
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,159
she doesn't walk away she floats away

686
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:25,919
kind of like glides away and out of the

687
00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:28,000
out of the frame it was so impressive

688
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:31,279
that it was also shared with

689
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:33,200
the world's largest ghost hunt as well

690
00:24:36,950 --> 00:24:34,960
and it was on their on their web page

691
00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:36,960
for it's probably still on there but

692
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:39,279
it's really interesting it looks like uh

693
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:42,320
uh basically an apparition of a woman in

694
00:24:46,230 --> 00:24:43,760
a white dress

695
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:46,240
just kind of glides out of the picture

696
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:47,919
you know there's no doubt that place is

697
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:50,080
still haunted um

698
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:51,360
out of the

699
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,720
almost decade that the nwps has been

700
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:56,240
going well this is

701
00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,960
uh

702
00:25:00,549 --> 00:24:58,480
the ninth year

703
00:25:01,990 --> 00:25:00,559
um

704
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:02,000
the only

705
00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:03,760
only twice that we caught what we'd call

706
00:25:06,870 --> 00:25:05,440
shadow people

707
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,880
on camera

708
00:25:12,950 --> 00:25:08,480
um

709
00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,960
like i said that's just

710
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,400
uh and in the middle of nowhere i mean

711
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:16,080
who would figure right well i do

712
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:18,480
remember at one of the last camp out

713
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:20,080
meet and greets we worked

714
00:25:25,669 --> 00:25:22,960
we had the sls camera in the basement

715
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,679
and we actually caught a shadow person

716
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:27,360
pop its head into the frame for a few

717
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:29,840
seconds and popped his head back out and

718
00:25:33,430 --> 00:25:32,080
nobody was standing where it was right

719
00:25:36,630 --> 00:25:33,440
yeah that was on connect's camera and

720
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:36,640
that was uh it didn't it didn't map out

721
00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:37,360
the

722
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:40,080
figure that kind of came in it came out

723
00:25:43,909 --> 00:25:41,440
you know how it takes a couple seconds

724
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:43,919
for it to map out the stick figure

725
00:25:48,549 --> 00:25:46,000
for those who don't know that sls camera

726
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:48,559
is we've taken uh the camera out there a

727
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,880
couple times and

728
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,480
both times

729
00:25:56,549 --> 00:25:54,559
uh the one time when jenny like said it

730
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:56,559
leaned over and came back in and then

731
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,360
the other time uh for a couple minutes

732
00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:01,520
and that could be found on like page two

733
00:26:05,110 --> 00:26:03,760
where you could see a succession where

734
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:05,120
there was a

735
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,120
small anomaly like a

736
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:08,799
like almost like a small

737
00:26:12,470 --> 00:26:11,120
figure that had shown up and i had

738
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:12,480
walked up to it

739
00:26:17,430 --> 00:26:14,720
slowly with the emf meter

740
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:17,440
you know trying to get a reading on it

741
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:20,720
and as i get right up to it it literally

742
00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:23,919
jumps from where it's at onto me jumps

743
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,200
up my back and and disappears

744
00:26:30,549 --> 00:26:28,960
and it was just

745
00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:30,559
it's one of the things and it's just

746
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:33,600
like wow you know that so yeah i mean

747
00:26:37,590 --> 00:26:35,279
and like you said like for when you guys

748
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:37,600
go out there i mean kids come out i mean

749
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,039
kids are always people don't realize how

750
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:41,120
many people go out there because it's i

751
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:42,480
don't know if it's a rite of passage for

752
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:44,640
high schoolers or or what you would call

753
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,320
it but

754
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:48,240
between uh

755
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,400
ghost hunters thrill seekers

756
00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:53,440
and uh kids there's you know well i

757
00:26:56,470 --> 00:26:54,960
think for kids it could kind of be a

758
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:56,480
rite of passage if you think about it

759
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:57,760
because they hear from their parents

760
00:27:00,549 --> 00:26:58,960
about the haunted house in the

761
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,559
neighborhood sure and all their older

762
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:02,240
brothers go out there right so they're

763
00:27:05,669 --> 00:27:03,679
gonna get curious and they're gonna want

764
00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,679
to go out and see what it's about too

765
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,440
right yeah a lot of people come over

766
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:09,279
from the campground that's pretty close

767
00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:11,039
by called ben's camp

768
00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:12,320
everybody comes up there for the summer

769
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:13,679
like oh my god there's a haunted mansion

770
00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,039
it's not far from here we should all go

771
00:27:19,110 --> 00:27:17,039
over there

772
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:19,120
so you got the blueprints to the

773
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:21,200
original man

774
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:22,559
and

775
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,760
the motivation is there to to get this

776
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,679
off the ground

777
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:30,080
that's really cool um

778
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:32,480
and you guys are still looking for

779
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:34,640
investors is that correct

780
00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:36,480
yeah still looking for investors um we

781
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:38,720
have uh i have spoken and it's pretty

782
00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,440
cool with uh jeff belanger he is

783
00:27:45,510 --> 00:27:43,679
actually the producer of many ghost

784
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:45,520
hunting shows on tv and throughout the

785
00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:48,880
years um now including like uh

786
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,400
um the uh

787
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:52,000
paranormal lockdown the current one

788
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:53,760
that's on tv

789
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,840
and uh we've been in touch with him

790
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,840
quite a bit and he was looking for a

791
00:28:03,269 --> 00:27:59,840
producer to maybe

792
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:03,279
help back the project to uh basically do

793
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,559
season one

794
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,039
the uh basically called the rebuilding

795
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:09,039
of summer wind along with the stories

796
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:11,120
behind summer wind and all the different

797
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,039
teams that have been out there and then

798
00:28:18,710 --> 00:28:15,200
create another season after it's built

799
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:20,789
the continued hauntings of a bed and

800
00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:22,000
breakfast

801
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,480
so if we ever get that off the ground

802
00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:26,159
that would be really awesome but he's

803
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:28,159
having problems finding a producer for a

804
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,440
couple reasons

805
00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,159
one it's a great idea who

806
00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,080
and this is something just for anybody

807
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:36,640
interested in wanting to help too or

808
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:38,640
you know to even find the backer

809
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:41,600
nobody has ever rebuilt a haunted house

810
00:28:45,669 --> 00:28:43,679
before you've seen stuff on tv where

811
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:45,679
they rebuild your house they redo your

812
00:28:49,029 --> 00:28:46,640
car

813
00:28:50,950 --> 00:28:49,039
make it all nice but no one has ever

814
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:50,960
rebuilt a haunted house

815
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:54,240
so the idea is new and it's outrageous

816
00:28:58,389 --> 00:28:55,760
but that's also there's also a little

817
00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,399
bit of a risk there for a producer

818
00:29:02,630 --> 00:29:00,320
because if it doesn't you know if your

819
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:02,640
ratings go down because it don't

820
00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:03,840
you know you don't want to have bad

821
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:06,320
ratings but for anybody else that's out

822
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:07,200
there

823
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:08,799
you know let's do this because it's

824
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:11,279
never been done

825
00:29:14,870 --> 00:29:13,840
yeah i would say it'd be fantastic i

826
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:14,880
mean

827
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:17,279
it's a it's an iconic place

828
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,159
you know um certainly world famous even

829
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,880
after all these years it's there's some

830
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:24,880
properties just have a charisma about

831
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,880
them and

832
00:29:30,230 --> 00:29:27,840
uh

833
00:29:32,389 --> 00:29:30,240
with this you got you know you got seven

834
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,399
years worth of haunted history

835
00:29:35,350 --> 00:29:34,080
you know you got

836
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:35,360
uh

837
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:36,880
yeah

838
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:41,679
i mean it goes all the way back to the

839
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,919
secretary of commerce correct

840
00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:45,200
um he was the other fan with the

841
00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:47,360
possibility that hoover even stayed

842
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:53,350
so you have all of that and that you

843
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,760
could do a whole season just on that

844
00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:57,039
you know because then you got all the

845
00:30:03,990 --> 00:30:02,080
years with the the the um you know uh

846
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,000
the henshaw family

847
00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:06,240
which was featured on haunting i think

848
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:07,679
it was uh wasn't it like the first

849
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,279
episode they even made or the first or

850
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:11,520
second one or something which i mean i'm

851
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:13,520
gonna show you

852
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:15,760
that you know there's

853
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:18,159
something about this place and then

854
00:30:21,590 --> 00:30:19,520
uh

855
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,600
the fact that you guys got the original

856
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:23,600
blueprints so you got i mean between the

857
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:25,360
past

858
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,600
the conspiracy

859
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,760
the the evidence from the time it burnt

860
00:30:33,909 --> 00:30:31,840
down until now because we have evidence

861
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and you have evidence

862
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863
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864
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865
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866
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867
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868
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869
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870
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time after 12 lease payments visit your

871
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872
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873
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874
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875
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876
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877
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878
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879
00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:05,039
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880
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:06,320
evidence

881
00:31:12,070 --> 00:31:07,200
you know

882
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:12,080
cameras and witnesses and and the whole

883
00:31:13,750 --> 00:31:12,880
thing

884
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:13,760
i mean

885
00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:14,799
and now

886
00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:15,600
if

887
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:17,440
they actually build it then of course

888
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:18,480
you got

889
00:31:21,269 --> 00:31:19,760
as you're building it you wonder if

890
00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:21,279
anything is going to happen because

891
00:31:27,669 --> 00:31:25,120
before in the 70s von borber had hired

892
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:27,679
people to come out and they

893
00:31:31,830 --> 00:31:30,240
left the scene because they're they're

894
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:31,840
from what i remember like didn't they

895
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:33,520
have power tools staring by themselves

896
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,360
or or tools

897
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:37,519
crazy stuff rooms rooms would change

898
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,039
dimension yeah

899
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:41,440
yeah so i mean you'd have to wonder if

900
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:43,679
anything would happen this time around

901
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:46,640
and like you said once it's built

902
00:31:50,789 --> 00:31:48,880
then you know uh then you have more

903
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,799
teams come in and and see if they pick

904
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,559
up anything because it would be one

905
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:54,480
thing if there was no activity out there

906
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,559
anymore

907
00:32:00,149 --> 00:31:58,559
well but but the fact that teams have

908
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:00,159
been going out there and documenting

909
00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:02,000
some serious activity

910
00:32:07,509 --> 00:32:05,120
you know um yeah i think just building

911
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,519
over the foundation

912
00:32:11,909 --> 00:32:09,679
where summerwind was uh will bring

913
00:32:13,110 --> 00:32:11,919
activity no matter what i think just

914
00:32:17,590 --> 00:32:13,120
putting something there will bring

915
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:19,909
okay so we have a question um from the

916
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:21,840
chat room

917
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:24,240
and the question is there are so many

918
00:32:28,710 --> 00:32:26,559
spirits about would you really have to

919
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,720
rebuild the same house at the same place

920
00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:31,120
or could you just go to another location

921
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:34,720
and invite the spirits to follow

922
00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:36,240
you could go to another location but it

923
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:37,600
wouldn't be summer wind there wouldn't

924
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:39,760
be any of the history behind it i don't

925
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:41,519
think rebuilding a house somewhere else

926
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:44,080
anybody would even want to back that

927
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:45,840
yeah it would happen it wouldn't be it

928
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,640
wouldn't be summer wind

929
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,159
and it's so cool that you guys got the

930
00:32:54,310 --> 00:32:52,480
original blueprints i mean that's just

931
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:54,320
because now i mean it makes the whole

932
00:32:58,870 --> 00:32:56,799
thing possible you don't of course i

933
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:58,880
want to support the idea

934
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:02,080
you have a society that's backing it

935
00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:04,080
you have tons of people that love this

936
00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,720
place i would love to see it go up

937
00:33:09,909 --> 00:33:08,559
to me it's a no-brainer i mean

938
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,919
what are you going gonna do another go

939
00:33:12,870 --> 00:33:10,720
show

940
00:33:15,269 --> 00:33:12,880
with the same pretense you know in the

941
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,279
same script or not script but you know

942
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:17,360
what i mean i mean yeah you can there's

943
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,880
only so many go shows where you just go

944
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,640
an abandoned house and walk around with

945
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:21,760
uh

946
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:24,240
you know a a camera and a ghost box i

947
00:33:28,630 --> 00:33:25,840
mean with this there would be so much

948
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:28,640
more it would have uh

949
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:31,360
yeah i would think that any producer you

950
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:33,440
know big time or up and coming i mean

951
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,120
anybody interested in this should

952
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,960
definitely contact you guys

953
00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:38,640
now for the last five minutes i want to

954
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,399
discuss your books

955
00:33:43,990 --> 00:33:41,760
your your book

956
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:44,000
wisconsin's most haunted

957
00:33:48,310 --> 00:33:45,360
yep and

958
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,320
uh which came out when

959
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,159
that came out last year um so it's been

960
00:33:55,350 --> 00:33:53,120
on about a year now and

961
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:55,360
you've uh before we went on you said you

962
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:57,519
have a new book coming up tell us about

963
00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:58,640
that

964
00:34:02,070 --> 00:34:01,279
yep it's wisconsin's most haunted volume

965
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:02,080
two

966
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:04,799
it covers a lot of our very early on

967
00:34:09,829 --> 00:34:07,279
investigations some from like new london

968
00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:09,839
wisconsin one of our very first um

969
00:34:14,310 --> 00:34:12,480
investigations in 2010 where i was

970
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,320
actually scared for the first time in my

971
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,800
life of something really creepy going on

972
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:18,960
so a lot of the stories that are there

973
00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,960
from our basically our earlier times but

974
00:34:23,669 --> 00:34:22,000
also

975
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:23,679
into some of our newer

976
00:34:27,829 --> 00:34:26,079
investigations as well

977
00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:27,839
the prior book the first one that came

978
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,480
out has summer wind in it as well

979
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,280
and has many stories about summer women

980
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:34,960
that have never been told before as well

981
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:37,040
so if you pick up the first copy

982
00:34:41,270 --> 00:34:38,639
you'll see a lot of different articles

983
00:34:42,629 --> 00:34:41,280
about summer wind that were told by a 90

984
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:42,639
year old woman that lived across the

985
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:48,869
yeah the second the second yeah the

986
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:50,639
second book should be out before

987
00:34:53,869 --> 00:34:52,399
christmas

988
00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:53,879
nice

989
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:56,800
congratulations it's awesome yes thank

990
00:35:06,710 --> 00:34:57,920
you

991
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:09,589
yeah definitely like uh um titled title

992
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,400
tone but uh green bay national railroad

993
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:13,680
museum

994
00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:15,280
um

995
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:17,680
the berlin tannery a bunch of different

996
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,720
things

997
00:35:21,910 --> 00:35:20,800
this new one has title town brewery in

998
00:35:24,310 --> 00:35:21,920
it

999
00:35:27,670 --> 00:35:24,320
uh in green bay that a lot of the

1000
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:27,680
packers would visit too so

1001
00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:28,960
right

1002
00:35:33,510 --> 00:35:30,880
and uh

1003
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,520
let's see what time do we have here

1004
00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:35,440
we got three minutes left

1005
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:36,320
um

1006
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:39,359
it's enough time for uh could you share

1007
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,320
any links that you'd like to share

1008
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:44,880
sure um we have fox valley

1009
00:35:48,790 --> 00:35:46,800
ghosthunters.com

1010
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,800
we also have foxy lagos hunters on

1011
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:49,920
facebook

1012
00:35:54,950 --> 00:35:52,079
summer wind restoration society on

1013
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:54,960
facebook and we also run a site called

1014
00:35:58,710 --> 00:35:56,960
wisconsin's most haunted places on

1015
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:58,720
facebook

1016
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,359
and you can find a lot of our videos

1017
00:36:05,270 --> 00:36:03,599
um from every from all different places

1018
00:36:07,109 --> 00:36:05,280
on youtube under fox valley ghost

1019
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:07,119
hunters as well

1020
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,680
as well as the summer win the conspiracy

1021
00:36:13,109 --> 00:36:11,359
video where we did the interview with

1022
00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:13,119
the guy

1023
00:36:18,150 --> 00:36:15,440
yes and then yeah if anybody wants to

1024
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:18,160
hear the interview with the guy

1025
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,640
from in his own words

1026
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,640
the you can you can find the interview

1027
00:36:25,190 --> 00:36:24,240
either what craig said or you can go to

1028
00:36:26,790 --> 00:36:25,200
some

1029
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:26,800
supernatural magazine

1030
00:36:31,670 --> 00:36:28,800
and there's a link to the video there as

1031
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:31,680
well right and for those of you in chat

1032
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,160
i just posted that link to supernatural

1033
00:36:38,390 --> 00:36:36,480
magazine so it's got the full article

1034
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,400
and the interview so you guys definitely

1035
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:41,200
want to check it out

1036
00:36:44,710 --> 00:36:42,240
and uh

1037
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:44,720
craig we'd like to thank you so much

1038
00:36:48,630 --> 00:36:47,119
uh for taking time out and

1039
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:48,640
coming on and

1040
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,150
yeah thank you kevin ken

1041
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:56,400
yeah thank you it was awesome having you

1042
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,950
so um we're going to wrap up this show

1043
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:04,960
um next week we'll be off for

1044
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,480
thanksgiving

1045
00:37:10,870 --> 00:37:08,880
and the following week in december 1st

1046
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:10,880
we're going to have we're going to have

1047
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,359
author jeff mudgett who is the great

1048
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:15,680
great grandson of the first america's

1049
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:18,320
first serial killer h.h holmes we're

1050
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:20,800
going to be discussing his book and his

1051
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:22,640
ancestor

1052
00:37:31,030 --> 00:37:28,870
to the believer the evidence is

1053
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:31,040
overwhelming and to the skeptic there

1054
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:32,960
will never be enough

1055
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:34,720
thank you everyone god bless you have a

1056
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:36,640
wonderful evening a wonderful weekend

1057
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:38,800
and we will see you in two weeks and